Commercial Work

beenthere

Me too.

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RoBoTeq

That was you?! Wow, small world

beenthere

Mine was back in 2003 or 2004.

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RoBoTeq

Oh. Mine was almost 15 years ago. Did they put that pancake makeup on you and tell you to exagerate your smile?

beenthere

LOL...

Nope. I was cleaning an oil boiler.

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RoBoTeq

Seriously. My son and I did a 30 second spot for my company and they put this powdery makeup on our faces to take the shine from oils off of our faces. Then they told us to over exagerate our smiles because on camera you need to "emote" in order for facial expressions to be seen well. I figured ever since that that was why actors and actresses are always walking around with those huge plastic smiles.

beenthere

LOL... No, I didn't have to smile while cleanig the boiler.

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RoBoTeq

I think I still have a taped copy of that commercial. I should see if I can get it converted to digital.

beenthere

We'll be waiting.

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HVACLADY

I always make sure I have a signed contract (no haggling on price) on commerical work that way I can file liens if I don't get paid, I have only 1 lien pending in 10 years that has not been paid so far. The banks can not close on the building with a lien at the end of the job.
Residnetial liens are very hard, there is a lot of prep work prior to beginning any work, ( the agreement has to be signed by the A/C Company and anyone on the title of the home and then registered with the county records before work) I am only familiar with the laws here in Texas. Be careful out there guys on getting paid in this economy, I am hearing a lot of people not getting paid and fighting for thier money. I have had some slow pays but the lien letters usually work to get paid.

jvegas

Sorry to hear that and thanks for the tip.

liamazael

Commercial is brings in alot more money. Although more headaches too.

HVACLADY

Yes, it is more headaches but there is a better chance of making a higher profit margin. I like sending my guys to the same places everyday so we don't pay more travel time and gas like on residential. I have only lost on 2 jobs in 10 years in commercial, labor ate us up on those 2. You never know anything for sure in this business. LOL
It has been a lot more competative lately in this economy, some mechanical companies are bidding real low and breaking even or even losing just to cash flow. It will catch up with you eventually by doing that.

RoBoTeq

Unfortunately, the profit margins on commercial work are decreasing as more and more RNC companies bid commercial work in an attempt to stay in business.

HVACLADY

Yes, that is what I said earlier in my email, I am seeing it more and more, the only thing that is keeping us going is the relationships we had with some of our GC's that we have been working with for years and they appreciate our quality and are not willing to work for cheap either. I have 3 assisted living centers on my books, (not ready for the HVAC yet) just started another church this month, (all new contruction ) (my 4th church this year....) and several remodels, 2 Texacos, ets. These are all connections we have had over the years. Hopefully it will keep us going for another 8-9 months, then we will see where the economy is going from there. I have about 15 monthly service contracts that help bring a little in.

Saxon

90 % commercial, I have begun to break into the resi service field over the last several years.

supertek65

i use ladders all the time, get on top of cooling towers or the chiller itself, have some towers down in a hole, need a ladder for that, need a ladder just to reach the drives on the new stuff!
i hate ladders
you lucky bastard!

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