Carrier handbook friction loss

 
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:17 AM   #1
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Carrier handbook friction loss


Hi,

I found this formula in Carrier Handbook,
delta p = 0.03*f*(L/d^1.22)*(V/1000)^1.82

delta p = friction loss (in. wg)
f = interior surface roughness (0.9 for galvanized duct)
L = length of duct (ft)
d = duct diameter (in.), equivalent diameter for rectangular ductwork
V = air velocity (fpm)

Here is the problem, I could not find the interior surface roughness, f for concrete duct at anywhere else. May I know where does this formula derived from? I only can find Darcy, Colebrook, and Altshul-Tsal Equations on the internet. I need the interior surface roughness, f for concrete duct.

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Old 11-19-2011, 06:51 AM   #2
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Re: Carrier handbook friction loss


Concretes absolute roughness factor is .3 to 3MM.
Divide e(absolute roughness) by pipe diameter to get relative roughness factor.

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