Coleman 15.5 seer cooling problem R410

 
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:45 PM   #1
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Coleman 15.5 seer cooling problem R410


This unit was only 1.5 years old. Customer cannot locate Installer. Unit has variable speed blower.
Had only 11* temp drop.., 77* D.B. return (67.4W.B.)..,66*D.B.supply at plenum.
58* low side 165psi..., 275psi hi side condenser temp 93* D.B.
Tryed using subcool chart on units sticker., i believe it wanted around 342-370 hi side P.S.I. at 95* ambient.,, started adding freon nothing happen,added more,nothing!
Got caught in the old trap.,,I'll lower that a-coil temp, must of let out 3lbs + freon! STILL 58* coil temp! hi side came down about 25lbs. Still had 11* temp drop inside home. I did have temp gauge on liquid line at cond.,believe it also stayed at 89*. Had a mind freeze and left!

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Old 07-23-2011, 10:05 AM   #2
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High suction and low head = bypass somewhere...either the reversing valve or compressor. If it's a heat pump, try switching the reversing valve a few times. If a scroll, try reversing the start and run leads at the contactor/capacitor to reverse rotation for a few seconds. If the compressor is hot, cool it down and see if that helps.
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Suction and discharge seem real low for a 95 degree day.
Is the system exp valve? may not be feeding NG
Is their a strainer before the feed orifice? may be partially plugged.

I would think with 410A the suction should be double what you are getting around 118# S and the discharge should be around 418#D.
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Slight restriction in LLFD inside cabinet.
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low side 165psi..., 275psi hi side
165 ain't low for the suction...
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Whoa you can change the direction of a single phase compressor.?????
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Whoa you can change the direction of a single phase compressor.?????
At least sometimes. The first time I did it was by mistake. But I had one scroll that seemed to be locked up. Did all the capacitor / hard start stuff with no success. Reversed the leads and it started running. Switched them back, and it ran normal. Go figure.
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awesome You didn't have anything to lose and it worked so good job!!!!!!!
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The chart I am using shows the suction for air conditioning should be around 118# for 410A
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As beenthere said
Restriction in the llfd. or the liquid line valve is partly closed Note your liquid line is cooler than outdoor temp. The dryor or valve is acting like a metering device.
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Re: Coleman 15.5 seer cooling problem R410


Thanks Guys,have not been back to job site yet. Couple things on posts I may clarify.., at 15.5 seer it almost has to have x-valve..,it is not a heat pump..,I did not check to see If service valves were open.., I did not see nor do a LLFD temp in temp out test. Do not know if Coleman puts a strainer in there systems. Any more Ideas appreciated.., will keep every one posted!
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