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Old 01-18-2012, 07:39 PM   #21
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What's up Robo? It's your friendly neigborhOod Roadhouse!! Nice to see you again, my friend. How you been?

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Old 01-18-2012, 07:48 PM   #22
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I don't really see the problem with talking to DIY types. Usually it just encourages them to call us. There really are no "trade secrets" in this field. Experience in the field and a good head on your shoulders is what garners, not only respect, but a propensity for a customer to call you in.
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:54 PM   #23
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I have no problems talking to or helping out a DIY'er either but this site is not the place for it.
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I have no problems talking to or helping out a DIY'er either but this site is not the place for it.
I didn't say that it was...I'm just saying that it's not a "cardinal sin"(for lack of a better word) as some seem to imply.
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Too many rude pros
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A true PROfessional is not rude....its real simple...if a "pro" doesn't like a thread or post...don't respond.
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:24 PM   #26
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I didn't say that it was...I'm just saying that it's not a "cardinal sin"(for lack of a better word) as some seem to imply.

Gotcha.
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What's up Robo? It's your friendly neigborhOod Roadhouse!! Nice to see you again, my friend. How you been?
Been doing ok, docroadie. Since being the recipient of the latest downsizing of the last company I worked for, I have been working on building my consulting company. How about you? Keeping busy?
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I didn't say that it was...I'm just saying that it's not a "cardinal sin"(for lack of a better word) as some seem to imply.
Having discussions with DIYers is not so much a problem as having discussions with them on a site that advertizes DIY sales of HVAC equipment and parts.

A site needs to be either for professionals or for DIYers. There is no incentive for me to have discussions with DIYers who are going to use my knowledge to buy parts from some internet site and then blame me for when what they screwed up didn't work.

Professional sites need to promote the professionals who are putting their time and energy along with years of experience on the line.
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Agreed

A true PROfessional is not rude....its real simple...if a "pro" doesn't like a thread or post...don't respond.
Yea, but what do you know?



It's a joke! Don't go getting so over stupid crap.
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Well that sucks. Sorry that happened to you, bud. Hopefully the consulting biz works out well for you.

This past season my old company which I was with for four years was so slow I went over to the home warranty hvac companies which kept me busy, 10-12 hours days all through the Summer. Good thing is I got a lot of hands on service/diagnosing experience which I desperately needed but it's slow everywhere at the moment. No work all week so far.

I too am working on new ventures so to speak, though. Have an interview this Friday with another hvac service company for a tech postion which is awesome as again, everyone is pretty much dead in the water, as well as spoke with an owner of another company for a sub install (per piece) position. Both appear promising, hopefully something will pan out.
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Lol ...
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Interesting, if you are not logged in, a bunch of words in our posts are linked to other sites. Try it. Log out, and then open the site and look at some posts.
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This site is part of a family of sites.
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Well, it seems that despite the claims that this is a professionals only site that is continues to cater to DIYers. Judging by replies to this thread, it also appears that other members are just fine with having to have the very companies that cause our industry some distress flaunted right on the very site that is supposed to be for professionals.

I'll keep checking back, but I'm not real comfy with the things I see that are accepted on here.
All I can say is.....who is forcing you to stay? you are free to move on if this doesn't fit you, don't wear it.
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All I can say is.....who is forcing you to stay? you are free to move on if this doesn't fit you, don't wear it.
I did move on. I came back by invitation to visit a newly renovated site. I see that the obnoxious members are still posting, but the site no longer looks like it is catering to DIYers.

Maybe you should look at the date of a post before you respond and come off looking like an ass.

8 posts and some folks think they are the sheriff

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This is very true. I simply have no interest, as an HVAC professional, to be having a discussion with someone on a forum that does not promote my industry. I feel that by advertizing places for DIYers to purchase HVAC products, it promotes an innopropriate disdain for the HVAC professionals. Why in the world would I want to have discussions with those who have a general disdain for what I do and the industry I love so much?

As far as I can see, HVACSite has rectified my concerns. Let's move forward.
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Old 01-20-2012, 05:28 PM   #39
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DIY'ers are a fact of life, in this trade or most any other. And I don't have any "philosophical" objections to people wanting to DIY. I do it with my stuff, when I can make a diagnosis and manage a fix.

The problem I have is attempting to oversimplify, an oftentimes complicated issue, to a point a DIYer can fathom the explanation. Or knowing, even with an understood explanation, the guy still can't manage the fix because he doesn't have the wherewithal to do it.

But I can also say, the same applies to so called residential "Pro's" who don't have the proper training or experience, to get close to an accurate analysis. Questions like, "The fan keeps turning off...whatcha' think might be the problem?", or "The system ain't cooling, but the pressures look good...whatcha' thinks wrong?", shouldn't come up on "Professional" forums IMO, simply because it's not a "professionally oriented", question.
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